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Post by Hróðbeorht on Nov 7, 2013 11:32:07 GMT
Coene cyning! Guþmaga/ Guþmæcga seem to be glossed as "bellicosus uir", but if I were to use a guþ- compound I'd go with Guðcyning too. About the hyphen in compounds: without. It's a modern editorial practice, and one that's only really used in dictionaries, glossaries and the like to help students. PS: Eadric did you see the refurbished digital Bosworth-Toller :3
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Post by Rǽdmund on Nov 7, 2013 15:55:52 GMT
Thanks yet again! ;D
I'm tempted by Heorucyning. Would that need any adjusting to be period accurate?
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Post by Éadríc on Nov 7, 2013 17:42:39 GMT
HerucyningNote that Mercian is also the dialect of Old English that Tolkien used for the Rohirrim in The Lord of the Rings, since he grew up in Birmingham, which lies in what was once Mercia. And so we read for instance Herugrim (the name of Théoden's sword), Saruman and Aldburg instead of Heorugrim, Searuman and Ealdburg. The latter are the forms as we would expect them in West-Saxon, the dialect of Old English in which most surviving manuscripts are written. The Old English in introductory course books is standard West-Saxon. P.S. Hróða, I saw, quite a treat!
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Post by Ingbrand on Nov 7, 2013 19:45:47 GMT
Looks really good Ráeda, i like your idea. Is it some commissioned work, because you need the title next monday?
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Post by Hróðbeorht on Nov 8, 2013 3:11:19 GMT
Unfortunately I don't think "Herucyning" would have any particular and striking early Old English spelling. Unless "kyning" was more common back then, but I don't think that's the case.
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Post by Rǽdmund on Nov 8, 2013 14:07:38 GMT
Ingbrand, technically this is a school project, but I've got pretty much free reign to do whatever I like as long as I have something to show my teacher when the course ends.
Herucyning does sound less grand in Mercian than in West Saxon, I have to admit. Would Angelcyning be correct as is?
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Post by Éadríc on Nov 10, 2013 12:50:19 GMT
Yes, or you can spell it Ongelcyning.
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Post by Hróðbeorht on Nov 10, 2013 13:04:31 GMT
Eadric, do you have any sources on early Old English? Super early, as in 7th-early 9th century. I haven't been able to find any useful sources, so I'm forced to talk out of my ass here, but Ongelcyning would strike me as a roughly Ælfredian, late 9th century-early 10th century form. Problem is, I don't know if an would be more likely to appear as on or as an before that. :\
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Post by Éadríc on Nov 10, 2013 13:51:03 GMT
Let me quote Campbell from his Old English Grammar: Yet Cædmon's Hymn in the oldest manuscript has moncynnas uard (see photocopy), in early eighth century Northumbrian. See also the eighth century Northumbrian Ruthwell Cross with cwomu. Of course Northumbrian is not Mercian, but they are both Anglian. At any rate, since Ongelcyning will look weird to most eyes, I would recommend using Angelcyning.
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Post by Rǽdmund on Nov 10, 2013 14:15:08 GMT
Yeah, I'm pretty much settled on Angelcyning.
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Post by Hróðbeorht on Nov 10, 2013 16:19:19 GMT
Yeah, Angelcyning sounds good.
Thanks, Eadric! I remember seeing some OE text which still used <b> for [β]/[v] and stuff like that, but I don't have the slightest idea what it was.
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